Why I’m Voting To Remain In The EU

The EU referendum is on the 23rd of June and Britain will vote on leaving or remaining in the EU.

I’m voting to remain.

There are three things wrong with this whole process. One: They don’t trust us to name a boat but trust us to decide the fate of our economy. Two: It’s not as simple as it’s made out to be, we don’t vote to leave and then immediately leave, we have to decide what we want to do if we do leave and have to renegotiate everything again. Three: Most of the arguments for both sides are either blatant lies or just plain insulting to our intelligence.

How anyone is supposed to make a clear and informed decision is anybody’s guess, but my gut feeling is that we’re better in the EU than we are out of it. The EU has helped shaped the Britain we are today, in terms of the economy, the rights we have as workers, as women, as humans. The Conservatives want to get rid of the human rights act by the way.

The EU means that Britain has to have: democracy, the rule of law, a market economy and guarantees for the protection of minorities and human rights. These are good things. Why would you want to give that up? The EU gives us freedom of movement, freedom of trade, freedom.

It took us two years to negotiate terms and finally be officially part of the EU; something we only did out of spite almost, out of jealousy even. And we reaped the benefits of this. If we left, getting back won’t be easy, it won’t just take another two years of negotiating. We’d have to have the support of every other member of the EU and I don’t know if you’ve noticed but Britain isn’t the most popular country in Europe right now.

 

Aside from that, on a local level, Wales benefits a lot from EU funding.

From the Welsh Government Site:

Since 2007, EU projects have created 11,925 enterprises and 36,970 (gross) jobs, assisted 72,700 people into work, 229,110 to gain qualifications, and 56,055 into further learning.

From Wales Online:

The Welsh Government’s flagship employment programme provides the first six months of salary costs for companies that give jobs to 16-24 year olds.

More than 15,000 people have been helped since 2012, and its three years are backed with £25m of EU funds.

So you can see how I might want to stay in the EU. And these are just projects funded by the EU, this doesn’t even count the farming subsidiaries that this country gets. Yes it’s true the UK pays more into the EU, but some areas get much, much more back. That money we pay in – there’s no guarantee that the government will use it the same way. We save all this money and the government haven’t promised to continue to subsidise farming or projects in poor areas. That money could go on the NHS, yes, but there’s no assurances it will. It could just disappear entirely and we’re no better off.

There are no guarantees if we leave.

 

Immigration?

Another of the bigger leave arguments is about immigration, most of which smacks of racism, but I understand it is a valid topic for many people. Including my mother, apparently, despite the fact that she lives on a hill, in the middle of no where, surrounded by some of the same families that have owned the land around her for hundreds of years.

So here we go – the huge numbers people quote, where people are coming in their millions? These are counting people who are short term immigrants, people who stay between a month and a year. The amount of long term immigrants – people who stay for longer than a year – is actually around 250,000 for the year 2015.

Most immigrants into the UK are from outside of the EU anyway, leaving the EU isn’t going to change that. Most immigrants come here to work or to study, most already have jobs and courses lined up. The idea that anyone has come to steal jobs is odd. Some people who say this already have jobs – if you’re so worried about someone stealing it, then you should work harder, it could be taken by anyone qualified regardless of nationality, surely. People who don’t have jobs who say this usually like to blame immigrants because it’s easier to have something tangible like that to blame, rather than something like a lack of jobs, or a poor society, or a rubbish government. Immigrants are easy targets and it’s lazy politics.

I’m proud that my country is considered so great that so many people want to come here. That so many people come here to contribute to our society, economically, socially, culturally. I’m proud that so many people come here and feel safe, and happy and at home.

 

Leaving the EU is not going to change anything about illegal immigration.

It’s illegal, a crime, the EU is not funding the desperate and poor from war torn countries to sneak across the border in the middle of the night. Think France is going to care about where all those people in Calais suddenly disappear too if we leave the EU though? I doubt it.

Illegal immigrants are not coming over here and sponging off the system, getting benefits and using the money for luxuries. They’re illegal, they do not exist on the system. Once you’re on the system, they know you’re here – just to get benefits you have to have a NI number. And to do that you have to be legal immigrant. With a visa and everything. My wife is a legal immigrant, she has been here for seven or eight years, has an NI number and pays her taxes and even she can’t apply for any benefits at this point.

I could go on, but to be honest, I do think a lot of the argument against immigration is thinly veiled racism, and I don’t really entertain racists. I back this argument up by saying that the people who are against immigrations and want to leave the EU, are all people known to be racists or racist parties. Like UKIP, the BNP and Britain First.

Vote whichever way you want, it’s your choice, that’s the point. My advice though, it not to believe the hype, do some digging, search out the facts, ignore the media and the spokespersons on both side of the argument. However if you’re not sure, vote in, because nothing will be certain if you vote out.

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12 Comments

  1. Thanks for the insights. I have to say, I’m still undecided, mostly because, as you say, it’s hard to know who to trust or believe. The campaigns are awful, the statistics are hard to believe. I’d love to think that we could free up £350 million per week or whatever to spend on the NHS & education, I’m just not convinced that’s where it will go. Food for thought anyway. #KCACOLS

  2. Great post. I agree that one of the biggest challenges is getting a fair and balanced view of the arguements for and against leaving the EU. Its definitely something I have been struggling with over the last few weeks but want to make sure I do before I vote. Will be interesting to see which way it goes.. Emily #KCACOLS

  3. I completely agree with you voting out is not going to stop illegals immigrants from coming in outside of the EU and I also agree about the whole racism thing. I don’t know why people are so hung up on immigration and the NHS as although they are important it shouldn’t be the sole reason to vote in or out.

    I thank you so much for linking up to #KCACOLS and I hope to see you back again next week. x
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  4. Great post and I totally agree with you. I voted REMAIN by post a couple of weeks ago. I am really scared about the outcome of tomorrow. I am petrified that we will leave.

    You are right. The campaign has been misleading, conjecture, slogans and slander. Cutting through the pitch to get to the facts has been a real challenge. Ultimately for me though, the vote is about a gut decision. I feel European, I support the European project created post WW2 to ensure peace would remain. Peace is fragile. We need to protect it and the EU enables me to do this. The argument that frustrates me the most is that we will have more control if we vote leave. How can we have control when we are not even at the negotiating table for really significant trade, security and legal issues that affect us.

    Crossing my fingers and hoping that we will see sense and vote REMAIN tomorrow.
    Pen x #KCACOLS

  5. I can’t believe it actually happened. I’m stunned. The ripple effects from this will be huge (assuming it actually passes as I understand it’s not binding yet). It does smack of racism, as well as xenophobia. We’re not doing that much better here in the States with that idiot Trump running off at the mouth every five seconds and the media lapping it up like greedy animals.

    “The Welsh Government’s flagship employment programme provides the first six months of salary costs for companies that give jobs to 16-24 year olds.”

    Wow! Talk about incentives for companies to hire, and way to take care of citizens. If we had something like that here, I’d imagine we’d have fewer unemployed young people/college grads.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate learning how different people from the UK feel about this.
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